Psalm 110: Christ Is Already Reigning — Are You Living Like It? with Paul Hubbard | Jesus Smart X, Ep. 373
Most believers have barely scratched the surface of the powerful revelation in Psalm 110. In this conversation with Paul Hubbard, Brian Del Turco unpacks why Christ is reigning right now, not waiting. From the Melchizedek priesthood to the stunning story of Abigail and Nabal, this episode is a full-spectrum call to maturity — to become the kings and priests that Psalm 110 and Revelation 1:6 describe. If you've been waiting for Jesus to act, this episode will reframe everything. It's your move.
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EPISODE TRANSCRIPT: Psalm 110: Christ Is Already Reigning — Are You Living Like It?
A New Heart: Paul's Encounter with Jesus
Brian: Welcome to Jesus Smart X. I'm Brian Del Turco, and today I have a remarkable guest — Paul Hubbard, joining us from England. Paul has walked with Jesus for over 44 years, ministering apostolically and prophetically across the UK, Europe, Africa, and beyond. Paul, how did you first encounter Jesus?
Paul: I encountered him after a very difficult operation in which I actually died on the operating table. Seven days after being released from hospital, Jesus came to meet me in my bedroom. I experienced having been given a totally new heart — not physical, but real. In the morning I was completely changed. I looked out the door, I looked at the trees and went, the trees are green, the sky's blue. It was that radical. I went around telling everybody I loved them, that God loved them. I was a new creation immediately.
Brian: Born again. Radically regenerated. Paul has since served globally — UK, Norway, Italy, Kenya, Nepal, Paraguay, the USA, Canada — and is presently, along with his wife Corinne, seeking to see the true ecclesia emerge. He describes ministering amongst the dying embers of the church at large, believing we have entered a new era since 2020 — one that looks dark and dangerous on one side, but on the other, the glory of God is arising within his people. A company of burning hearts is being prepared for this moment. You can find Paul on Rumble — search Get a Life! — and check the show notes at jesussmart.com/374 for links as more of his resources come online.
Psalm 110 — The King Is on the Throne Now
Brian: Psalm 110 is the most quoted psalm in the entire New Testament. The Lord said to my Lord, sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool. The Lord shall send the rod of your strength out of Zion. Rule in the midst of your enemies. This is not a seeker-sensitive psalm. It is potent, urgent, and demands a response. Paul, what is your assessment?
Paul: Jesus has finished and accomplished everything the Father wanted him to do. It's all wrapped up, everything is done, everything's finished, and it's all under his feet. He's the King — not just in heaven, but over the whole cosmos. Everyone's waiting for Jesus to do something more, whilst Jesus is waiting for us to administer his kingdom on the earth.
Brian: Jesus raises Psalm 110 in Matthew 22, just before his crucifixion. Peter quotes it in Acts 2 immediately after the Holy Spirit is poured out. This psalm is not relegated to the future. It is already in play. Christ is reigning now — and we are his body, his hands, his feet, his beating heart. We are the ones called to carry the kingdom of God into the earth.
Paul: We're not doing it the way people think he ought to. He's already here. He's just waiting for us to administer what he's already done.
Brian: This is the weight of Psalm 110 pressing down on you and me right now. Not someday. Now.
Hebrews 6 and the Cornelius People
Brian: If Christ is already reigning and waiting for us to administer his kingdom, the uncomfortable question becomes: are we actually equipped for that? Hebrews 6 is direct — though you should be teachers, you need someone to teach you again. You need milk, not solid food. You are underdeveloped, arrested in your walk with God.
Paul: If the elementary principles of Christ — the living letters of Jesus himself — are not alive on the inside of us, then we're not carrying the kingdom of God at all. We haven't even started. Each one of those foundational things means something inside of us. And then he says, this we will do if God permits. I need his permission to go on.
Brian: What does it mean if God permits? Paul puts it plainly — God looks at what is living out of you. What is the establishment of truth within you? These last five years have tested everyone. Millions have failed to discern between good and evil because they remain immature. The church is not where it thinks it is.
And yet — surprisingly — there are people outside the visible church who are carrying something of God. Paul calls them the Cornelius people, after the Roman centurion of Acts 10.
Paul: There are people who would not call themselves Christians who are discerning things in ways that Christians are not even seeing. God saw this monument that Cornelius had built. He wasn't going to the synagogue. But inside him was life, pouring out. He's a builder, an encourager. God sees it and sends Peter — and opens the door to the Gentile world.
Brian: Cornelius people are among us. Discerning. Giving. Building. While parts of the church remain on milk. That tension ought to humble us. Check the show notes at jesussmart.com/374 for related episodes on ecclesia and Kingdom theology.
Abigail and Nabal: A Picture of Kings and Priests
Brian: Revelation 1:6 says Christ has made us kings and priests. That is Psalm 110 language. And there is a picture of it in 1 Samuel 25 that is stunning in its clarity.
The characters: David, the anointed but not yet enthroned king. Abigail, whose name means the Father's joy — a woman of good understanding and beautiful in every way. And Nabal, whose name literally means fool. David sends his mighty men to Nabal asking for provision. Nabal dishonors them and turns them away. David prepares to respond with the sword.
Paul: Abigail discerns that David is the coming king. She understands it somewhere in the spirit. And she knows this fool of a husband has dishonored him. So she loads the donkeys with every provision — when you're loaded with grace, it looks like donkeys full of provision — and she goes to meet David.
Brian: She says plainly: as his name is, so he is. Nabal is his name and folly is with him. She sees reality and names it. She does not hide behind false respect. And she intercedes — causing heaven to come to earth. A priest operating from a heavenly dimension, meeting a king carrying government from another place. Kings and priests coming together.
Nabal, told the next morning what had occurred, has his heart turn to stone. God gives him ten days — the number of testing. He does not repent. He dies on the tenth day.
Paul: God didn't really have to do anything. The guy had killed himself. He'd sent a boomerang out, and while it cut people down, he didn't realize it was going to return and cut his own head off.
Brian: We are surrounded by Nabals — in government, media, education, and yes, in the church. But Abigail shows us the way. Carry the Father's heart. Discern the king. Intercede. Let heaven and earth come together. That is the Melchizedek order — and it is available to us now.
The Kindling Wrath and the Jesus We Don't Know
Brian: Psalm 2 addresses the kings of the earth directly — be wise, be instructed, kiss the Son, lest he be angry and you perish. Are we seeing a kindling of that wrath now?
Paul: People have sent boomerangs out and those boomerangs are returning upon their own heads. God isn't directly executing — he's just not keeping them from being exposed anymore. You are exposing yourself. You are in your shame. And there is an end to it.
Brian: The earth is the Lord's — Psalm 24:1. It has never belonged to Satan. But God has coded creation in such a way that you will reap what you sow. The harvest catches up. The wicked have no staying power on this planet.
And yet — there is a Jesus we do not fully know. We know the loving shepherd. We may not know the one who overturned tables, made a whip overnight, and acted with full intentionality. We may not fully reckon with his infinite sense of justice and holiness.
Paul: The Jesus coming back is coming back in us first. All creation is awaiting the sons of God. He is coming back right now — leveling us up by a plumb line. I am not waiting for Jesus to rescue me. He's already rescued me. I want to be the son of God I truly am, bringing something of heaven to the earth right now.
Brian: Psalm 110 is not relegated to the millennium. It is already at play. The wrath is already here — in lower intensity, redemptive form — giving us time to repent, to mature, to rise to this moment. Kings and priests together, carrying the Father's heart, ruling and reigning not from vengeance but from love.
Paul: There's a lamb's heart in the lion. But when he roars — you're going to feel it.
Brian: Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand. Christ is reigning. Know him. Live the difference. Show notes, Scripture references, and related resources at jesussmart.com/374.
Transcript
Hey, welcome to the podcast today.
Speaker A:This is Brian Del Turco, Jesus Smart X Podcast.
Speaker A:I have a fantastic guest, a longtime friend, Paul Hubbard from England.
Speaker A:And how are you, Paul?
Speaker A:It's great to have you on the podcast and I'm looking forward to this.
Speaker A:How are you today?
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm well, thank you.
Speaker B:The sun is shining, the sky is blue, and I have the privilege of talking to you.
Speaker A:Whoa, you're a poet and don't even know it.
Speaker A:Paul is a person of encounter.
Speaker A:He encountered Jesus when he was 19 old in a very intense, dramatic way.
Speaker A:I would say he's loved Jesus and served in ministry for the past 44 years.
Speaker A:Paul, tell us just briefly about your testimony.
Speaker A:How did you.
Speaker A:How did you encounter Jesus?
Speaker B:I encountered him after a very difficult teenage years, turbulent teenage years, but after a very difficult operation that I'd had in which I actually died on the.
Speaker B:On the operating table, they brought me round again, of course, and the first words out of my mouth were, praise God, I'm alive.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:And I was released from the hospital and seven days later, Jesus came to meet me in my bedroom.
Speaker B:So it was a.
Speaker B:An awesome encounter.
Speaker B:And I experienced having been given a totally new heart.
Speaker B:Not physical, but it was like a physical heart that Jesus actually gave to me at that time.
Speaker B:And I experienced every emotion going in the following few hours after him being with me.
Speaker B:And in the morning I was completely, just completely changed, completely new.
Speaker B:And I came out of the door and even my mum noticed I was a changed person and I was literally changed.
Speaker B:I looked out of the door, I looked at the trees and I went, the trees are green, the sky's blue.
Speaker B:It was like.
Speaker B:It was, it was, it was that, that radical.
Speaker B:And then I went around telling everybody I loved them, that God loved them.
Speaker B:And yeah, you can imagine there was a lot of stories.
Speaker B:Yeah, people didn't really understand, and to be honest, I didn't really understand what had taken place.
Speaker B:But over the following months and years, he taught me.
Speaker B:And yeah, I was a new creation immediately.
Speaker A:Born again.
Speaker A:Born again, Radically regenerated.
Speaker A:You were, you were regened, huh?
Speaker A:Yeah, really regenerated.
Speaker A:Paul has served in the church apostolically, we could use the word global, which means like locally based, but globally influential apostolically and prophetically for many of these years.
Speaker A:Countries, of course, the uk, where he's from, but Norway, Italy, Kenya, Nepal, Paraguay, the usa, Canada.
Speaker A:And he's presently, along with his wife Corinne, looking to see how the Lord is bringing forth the real.
Speaker A:We could call ecclesia.
Speaker A:We've used that word Here a lot on the podcast the.
Speaker A:The assemb of believers called out filled with kingdom, meaning he's been ministering amongst the dying embers of the church at large.
Speaker A:Paul says.
Speaker A:What do you mean by that, Paul?
Speaker A:The dying embers of the church at large?
Speaker B:Well, it's.
Speaker B:It's a big.
Speaker B:A big subject, but I really do believe that this is a new time.
Speaker B:It's a new era since.
Speaker B: Since probably: Speaker B:And on the one side, it looks very dark, dangerous and depraved.
Speaker B:On the other side, the glory of God within us is arising more and more only within us, but within the earth as well.
Speaker B:And I think there's a people that are being.
Speaker B:Some have been, but are being prepared for that which we're now in transition with.
Speaker A:Okay, I want to put it like that.
Speaker B:So I think a lot of the church as we see it now will.
Speaker B:It might not disappear, but a lot of the church will be.
Speaker B:Will be with.
Speaker B:Devoid of power and real authority and any kind of real, genuine life.
Speaker B:The church as we know it now.
Speaker B:But I. I think out of that, there are people that God has raised up, is raising up right now and preparing for this new era that we're in.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, we have a number of episodes that try to deal with the concept of ecclesia or even micro ecclesia.
Speaker A:And maybe on the show Notes page, we could link to a number of those.
Speaker A:And if you'd like to dig into that, you know, dive into that further, you'll be hearing more about something called Creative Dimension.
Speaker A:Creative Dimensions, which is surfacing here, Paul, along with his w. Really what they're, I think, attracting and looking for is a company of burning hearts that are desiring to serve the King in any place, with any people, in any region, locally or globally.
Speaker A:He has a channel on Rumble right now called Get a Life.
Speaker A:Is that what it's called, Paul?
Speaker A:Get a life.
Speaker B:It's called Get a Life.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Get a life.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:What do you mean, get a life?
Speaker A:I think I know what you mean, but what do you mean by that, Get a life?
Speaker B:Well, we just mean it's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's time that people actually got a life.
Speaker B:A real life.
Speaker B:Not a false life, not a half life, not a half cooked life, but a real life.
Speaker B:True and full of Jesus.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Full of his life.
Speaker A:Amen.
Speaker A:So Get a life.
Speaker A:Search that on Rumble and you'll probably be.
Speaker A:Perhaps you may be finding other channels of accessibility too, in the future, becoming available with his his teaching.
Speaker A:His teaching is fresh, unique.
Speaker A:I really think you need check it out.
Speaker A:Well, Paul, I think we got something to talk about today that I believe the Lord began to underscore with me recently.
Speaker A:One of the Psalms.
Speaker A:As you know, listener, you probably know.
Speaker A:Hopefully you know, there's 150 Psalms and Psalm 110 is one of the psalms that I believe the Lord has been underscoring, highlighting with me and we're going to talk about that today.
Speaker A:I have an article about it on Jesus smart.com that you can check out.
Speaker A:I think that article is called Jesus Isn't Waiting to Be king.
Speaker A:Understanding Psalm 110.
Speaker A:Talking about this today.
Speaker A:Paul, Paul, can I just take a moment and actually read the psalm?
Speaker B:Of course.
Speaker A:As a background framework and reading from the new King James from my analog Bible.
Speaker A:I encourage you to wear out an analog Bible lest you be worn out by the enemy.
Speaker A:I'm telling you, God's word has got to become Prime.
Speaker A:Okay, Psalm 110 and we're going to see how this shows up again and again and again in the New Testament as well.
Speaker A:But the Lord said to my Lord, this is David.
Speaker A:The Lord said to my Lord, sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.
Speaker A:The Lord shall send the rod of your strength out of Zion.
Speaker A:Rule in the midst of your enemies.
Speaker A:Verse 3.
Speaker A:Your people shall be volunteers in the day of your power.
Speaker A:In the beauties of holiness.
Speaker A:From the womb of the morning you have the dew of your youth.
Speaker A:The Lord has sworn and will not relent.
Speaker A:You are a least forever.
Speaker A:According to the order of Melchizedek.
Speaker A:Now those are verses one to four.
Speaker A:And now just three more verses which perhaps could be the most controversial to you.
Speaker A:Verses 5 through 7.
Speaker A:The Lord is at your right hand.
Speaker A:He shall execute kings in the day of his wrath.
Speaker A:He shall judge among the nations.
Speaker A:He shall fill the places with dead bodies.
Speaker A:Literally means he shall execute the heads of many countries.
Speaker A:It says that literally means break in pieces and he shall drink of the brook by the wayside.
Speaker A:Therefore he shall lift up the head.
Speaker A:Psalm 110.
Speaker A:Not exactly a seeker sensitive psalm or something that he would, you know, hear in a lot of messaging today, even in media, you know, some kind of therapy, deism messaging that goes on.
Speaker A:This is a, this is a potent psalm just right at the jump.
Speaker A:Paul, what is your, just give us briefly what is your, your feeling, your assessment of this, of this psalm by David?
Speaker B:Well, I think that in, in, in the light of Jesus having done all things, of course, Jesus has finished and accomplished everything that the Father wanted him to do.
Speaker B:So he couldn't.
Speaker B:He couldn't have done another thing even if he didn't want it to.
Speaker B:So he couldn't do that because it's all finished and he doesn't want to do it because it's not necessary.
Speaker B:It's all wrapped up, everything is done, everything's finished, and it's all under his feet.
Speaker B:And therefore he's the king.
Speaker B:Of course, we look at he's the King in heaven, but he's the king over the whole earth as well.
Speaker B:In fact, the king over the whole cosmos.
Speaker B:We look and we wonder.
Speaker B:I think people, you know, the waiting for him to do something more.
Speaker B:As ever, you know, everyone's waiting for Jesus to do something more whilst Jesus is waiting for us to actually administer his kingdom on the earth.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:In Matthew 22, right before Jesus died, he was confronting the Pharisees and he brings up this psalm.
Speaker A:He says, who do you think about the Christ?
Speaker A:What do you think about the Christ?
Speaker A:Whose son is he?
Speaker A:And they said to him, the son of David.
Speaker A:Of course, it's true.
Speaker A:And he said to them, how then does David, in the Spirit, quoting from Psalm 110 now call him Lord?
Speaker A:Saying, the Lord said to my Lord, sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.
Speaker A:So, right.
Speaker A:During those last few days of his earthly life before the crucifixion, he's bringing this up.
Speaker A:I find that interesting.
Speaker A:You know, if somebody's about to die or leave people, they say the most important things, right?
Speaker A:And it shows up again In Acts, chapter two, right after the Holy Spirit is poured out, Acts 2:34 to 36, Peter's preaching, the Holy Spirit is poured out.
Speaker A:And he brings up this passage again, turning there in my analog Bible here, therefore, this is Acts 2:33.
Speaker A:Therefore, being exalted to the right hand of God and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he poured out this, which you now see and hear, for David did not ascend into the heavens, but he says himself, the Lord said to my Lord.
Speaker A:Psalm 110, verse 1, the Lord said to my Lord, sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool.
Speaker A:I find it interesting, Paul, that in that apostolic preaching, immediately after the Holy Spirit is poured out, this verse is highlighted from Psalm 110.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I mean, I think again, you know, it's.
Speaker B:It's like, it's the.
Speaker B:It's been the same down the years.
Speaker B:I often think I. I Used to hear people say, you know, well, we're, we're waiting for, for a fresh outpouring of the Holy Spirit.
Speaker B:We're waiting for God to do something.
Speaker B:We're waiting for him to come and there's going to be a great revival.
Speaker B:And I always remember thinking, yeah, but have you not read what it says in Acts chapter two?
Speaker B:It actually says that the Holy Spirit has already been poured out on all flesh.
Speaker B:So why are we waiting for Jesus to do something more?
Speaker B:Actually, Jesus has done everything and he is the king, of course.
Speaker B:So we can look at it and you know, he says, sit at my right hand till I make your enemies your footstool.
Speaker B:The Lord shall send the rod.
Speaker B:Which of course he's speaking about the government as well.
Speaker B:The government of your strength out of Zion.
Speaker B:He's talking about governance.
Speaker B:He's talking about Jesus is sat with all government, with everything that's possible in heaven.
Speaker B:But of course, we are his body.
Speaker B:We're his hands, with his feet, with his beating heart.
Speaker B:We're the ones that carry the kingdom of God onto and into the earth.
Speaker B:And I don't mean that God is not doing great things already.
Speaker B:He is, but he's not doing it the way that we think he ought to do it or should do it.
Speaker B:And lots of people, of course, are waiting for him to return.
Speaker B:And it's a whole other subject.
Speaker B:I think he's already here.
Speaker B:He's just waiting for us to administer what he's already done.
Speaker A:Yeah, let me jump to Psalm 149 just on that, the rod of his mouth.
Speaker A:I was just reading this just the other day and I started praying a little bit in an unusual way.
Speaker A:I think Psalm 149 is a great corollary Psalm to Psalm 110.
Speaker A:You know, along with Psalm 2.
Speaker A:I mean, if you just want to start really, you know, getting, getting invested in the word, read Psalm 110.
Speaker A:Look at Psalm 149.
Speaker A:Look at Psalm 2 with it.
Speaker A:Let me get there in my analog Bible, my analog Psalm 149.
Speaker A:It starts out Paul by talking about worship and let the children of Zion be joyful in their king.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Verse 2.
Speaker A:Praise and let the saints be joyful in glory.
Speaker A:In verse five, let them sing aloud on their beds.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:With the high praises of God be in their mouth and a two edged sword in their hand to execute vengeance on the nations and punishments on the peoples.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:This is amazing.
Speaker A:To bind their kings with chains and their nobles with fetters of iron.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:To execute on Them the written judgment, this honor have all his saints.
Speaker B:I mean, you just.
Speaker B:Sorry, right, you just read that and it's like, okay, let the high praises, Let them sing.
Speaker B:Let the high praises of God.
Speaker B:It's like, okay, so what, what is it that's dealing with the enemy then?
Speaker B:Well, it's, it's sound.
Speaker B:Maybe it's different to what we thought.
Speaker B:And of course, a lot of the time we're going, we need to pray.
Speaker B:No, maybe we need to learn another place to administer from a different place in the spirit, a different dimension.
Speaker B:You know, this is about song.
Speaker B:The high praises of God in their mouths.
Speaker B:Of course, it's coming from the heart, from the spirit.
Speaker B:And you know, it reminds me of Jericho.
Speaker B:You think about Jericho and the way that the walls fell down.
Speaker B:Well, actually there was, there was numbers of things involved in that.
Speaker A:Sure.
Speaker B:It's like, okay, we've got to learn new ways of administering this kingdom.
Speaker B:The kingdom of God on the earth.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's by the spirit.
Speaker B:It's by the spirit.
Speaker A:But no, the Jericho thing, I mean, you know, part of it is shut your mouth.
Speaker A:You know, for six days they had to shut their mouth.
Speaker A:No more grumbling and complaining.
Speaker A:Like, this is what got you into this mess.
Speaker A:All your disbelief and grumbling and complaining in the wilderness right now.
Speaker A:Now you're going to shut your mouth and when you open it again, it's going to be the shot of victory, the shot of praise.
Speaker A:So, so you're saying God's kingdom works through sound.
Speaker A:That's a big dynamic, isn't it?
Speaker B:Sound, light, vibration.
Speaker B:I mean, you just think when they shouted that shout, you know, what went through the air, what went, what was going as they were walking around the, the city, what was happening under the feet.
Speaker B:There were, there's things that are happening now, you know, vibration, sound, noise, light.
Speaker B:A new, new, new diamond dynamics and dimensions that perhaps is teaching us.
Speaker B:And it's exciting, you know, not to mention the angels who were here to help us administer on, on the earth and in the earth.
Speaker B:So you know, as well as the whole host of heaven and the communion of saints, that attacking part as well.
Speaker B:But.
Speaker B:And he says it here, he says, you know, leaving that discussion of the elementary principles, as you said, let us go on to maturity.
Speaker B:Okay, so, so he's just said that the problem is that even though you should be teachers, you need someone else to teach you again.
Speaker B:Yeah, and I mean, it's not really very pleasant what he's saying.
Speaker B:He's going, you know, you need milk.
Speaker B:Not Solid food.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You're underdeveloped, you've had an arrested development in your walk with God.
Speaker A:Something arrested you and you're stuck and you're underdeveloped and you can't even understand Psalm 110, nor can you flow with it in your own life.
Speaker A:That's what you're saying.
Speaker B:Yeah, because you'd want to be able to go.
Speaker B:Okay, so wherever we walk, wherever we go, the kingdom of God is coming.
Speaker B:But the truth is, if those things, those elementary principles which are the letters of Jesus himself, the life of God inside us by the Spirit, if that is not alive on the inside of us, then actually we're not carrying the kingdom of God at all.
Speaker B:We haven't even started.
Speaker B:And he says, you know, let us go on to not laying again the foundation of repentance, of faith toward God, doctrine of baptisms, laying of hands, resurrection of the dead, eternal judgment.
Speaker B:And all of those things, even though people look at them and go, this is doctrine.
Speaker B:No, actually each one of those things that he's talking about means something inside of us.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker B:And then he goes, and this we will do if God permits.
Speaker B:Okay, so I need his permission.
Speaker B:So go on.
Speaker B:I need his permission.
Speaker A:And what does that mean, if God permits?
Speaker B:I. I think it literally means that it looks at us at this point and goes, okay, what are the.
Speaker B:What is the life that's flowing out of you?
Speaker B:What, what is the establishment of truth that is within you?
Speaker B:What is it that you are living out of?
Speaker B:Who is it that you're living out of?
Speaker B:Is it your own mind?
Speaker B:Is it your own philosophy?
Speaker B:Is it someone else's ideology?
Speaker B:Is it the wokeism of the world?
Speaker B:Is it the systems of the.
Speaker B:What is it that's actually going on inside?
Speaker B:And he looks at us and of course we have been tested.
Speaker B:There's no one in these last five years that's not gone through massive tests.
Speaker B:And of course, I would venture, say that millions of people have failed the test because they have not managed to discern, because they are immature, they've not managed to discern between good and evil.
Speaker B:And even now we're surrounded with this ideology of wokism that is just eating people up.
Speaker A:Even, even church people, even Christians, those who identify as Christians.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:You know, we're tolerating everybody.
Speaker B:We tolerate and respect everything.
Speaker B:But actually love is truth.
Speaker B:Truth is love.
Speaker B:So without, you know, there must be a discernment that comes, that shows that, that clearly shows us what is right and wrong, what is evil, what is good.
Speaker B:And evil.
Speaker B:And people have not seen that.
Speaker B:So it shows me that the church is not where it thinks it is.
Speaker B:And of course, this is not me being down on the church, this is me just observing where we presently are.
Speaker B:And Jesus of course, came and ministered from heaven to the earth.
Speaker B:And when he ministered like that, he was ministering out of the order of Melchizedek.
Speaker A:Melchizedek.
Speaker A:I mean, let's just touch on that briefly.
Speaker A:Mel.
Speaker A:The Melchizedek.
Speaker A:Melchizedek priesthood versus the Aaronic.
Speaker A:Is that the right way to say it?
Speaker A:Aaron's priesthood.
Speaker A:So yes, it's different.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:It predates Aaron's priesthood, goes back to what, Genesis 14, I think with Abraham.
Speaker B:And it's not genealogy.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's a clearly a type of Christ in, in his priesthood.
Speaker A:And it is a king and a priest together.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:That's the thing.
Speaker A:It's a king and a priest in one embodiment.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:And we, we have to understand this, my friends, because if we're going to catch up, if we're going to meet this moment, if we're gonna, if, if we're gonna come to a place where the Lord qualifies us and permits us to advance.
Speaker A:In Hebrews 6, right.
Speaker A:If the Lord permits, I mean, I think for him to qualify us to, and allow us to advance, we're going to have to have these elementary things, even if we have to be retaught them and integrate them into our life as you're saying, you know, they have to become a living, breathing part of who we are.
Speaker A:It's not just a mental ascent to a creed or a statement of faith or even a practice, but it's a living transformative reality that we live and move in.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And then the Lord will qualify us in a sense and permit us to advance on.
Speaker A:We need you to show up as special ops level people in the kingdom.
Speaker A:This is what we need, Paul.
Speaker A:We need advanced, competent, equipped, you know, communication and ability and execution on behalf of the king so that we can be conducive to Psalm 110 in our life.
Speaker A:Yeah, you know, in like Second Corinthians 5 where Paul says, you know, we know that famous verse, verse 17.
Speaker A:Therefore, if any person is in Christ, he is a new creation or a new species of being.
Speaker A:The old things are passed away.
Speaker A:Behold, all things are new.
Speaker A:In the preceding verses one, we don't pay much attention to verse 16 which says, though you used to know Christ in this way, meaning after his earthly body existence, you know, him thus no longer and he says there, amazingly, we are to know each other in this way now through the born again experience.
Speaker A:We are to relate to one another and to know each other according to our new species of being in Christ and not our natural first birth.
Speaker A:Yeah, our born again, born again experience.
Speaker A:You know, Paul, in.
Speaker A:In Revelation 1.
Speaker A:I was just thinking about it this morning as we were.
Speaker A:As I was thinking about our recording that, you know, in Revelation 1, what you know, Paul has this encounter with the ascended Jesus on the island of Patmos.
Speaker A:And it.
Speaker A:Verse 5.
Speaker A:Jesus Christ, a faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, the ruler over the kings of the earth, to him who loved us and washed us from our sins in his own blood.
Speaker A:We love that part.
Speaker A:It's very evangelical.
Speaker A:He washed us in his blood from our sins.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But verse 6, and has made us kings and priests to his God and Father.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:So beautiful.
Speaker A:The century 1 Christians loved Psalm 110.
Speaker A:They loved it because they saw themselves in it.
Speaker A:Even though they were under Roman persecution, at times they understood who was the real king.
Speaker A:And even though Rome looked unstoppable, eventually Christ in them outlasted Rome.
Speaker A:Of course, as we're talking here, something's coming more into view for me, Paul, you're helping me.
Speaker A:Psalm 110 is really a framework or an understanding, a revelation that we need to be carrying throughout our time now, since the ascension of Christ, even before he comes again.
Speaker A:It's already in play, right?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:But can we add.
Speaker A:If we're going to flow with that and play our role in that, we have got to have these foundations laid in our lives and move on to more mature things in Christ According to Hebrews 6, those early verses there.
Speaker B:And I think that those things.
Speaker B:And again, I. I have to kind of emphasize that, that those things, those elementary principles in Christ, those oracles of God, it is living.
Speaker B:It's living word.
Speaker B:So it's.
Speaker B:It's living word that we've received.
Speaker B:The Holy Spirit gets a hold of inside and actually puts it in order in us.
Speaker B:So it's living letters that are arranged inside us that begin to order us, begin to establish us, and that becomes our life.
Speaker B:We become the embodiment of the very thing that we're reading about.
Speaker B:It's not some dry theological statement, but it's real life.
Speaker B:And the reason that I say this as well is because, you know, there is people around us presently who we see and we know would not call themselves Christians.
Speaker B:And I call these the Cornelius people.
Speaker A:Cornelius, the people.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The people like the Roman Centurion in the Book of Acts.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:He was a gentile.
Speaker A:Non.
Speaker A:Was he a believer or a pre.
Speaker A:Believer?
Speaker B:He was a.
Speaker B:He was someone who somehow had received something from God that was established in his life that he began to put into place.
Speaker B:And one day God looked at him and went, my mind, Cornelius has got life inside him.
Speaker B:There's some things that he's doing from the life that he's living that have caught my eye.
Speaker A:Now, wait a minute.
Speaker B:Therefore, the revelation of Jesus.
Speaker B:Sorry, bro.
Speaker B:Go ahead.
Speaker A:Well, no, I'm sorry.
Speaker A:I. I mean.
Speaker A:So this is called the second Pentecost in Acts 10, right.
Speaker A:Where the Holy Spirit is poured out upon the Gentile world.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Acts 2.
Speaker A:It's the Jewish world in Jerusalem.
Speaker A:All the Jews are assembled.
Speaker A:This is a very important individual that God used.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, really.
Speaker A:And by special connection, Peter went there.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:So this is who we're talking about.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So what are you saying?
Speaker A:There are people now who may not.
Speaker B:That are like Cornelius's, who may not have read.
Speaker B:They might have read the Word.
Speaker B:They may not have read the Word.
Speaker B:They may have prayed.
Speaker B:They may not have prayed.
Speaker B:They might know how to give, they may not know.
Speaker B:But what I'm saying is that there's some people that have captured something that is within them, that is like life, that begins to come forth from them, for instance, to understand righteousness and justice.
Speaker B:And their are discerning things in ways that Christians are not even discerning and seeing, which is amazing.
Speaker B:And because of that, it's like God saw this monument that Cornelius had built.
Speaker A:He was a person of prayer, it says, and giving alms.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Is that right?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And he's a Roman centurion.
Speaker A:He's a Roman centurion, you know, so.
Speaker B:He's not the kind of bloke that's going to the synagogue every week.
Speaker B:He's the kind of bloke that's putting into practice all the things that Caesar's saying, all the things that are meant to be done.
Speaker B:And you just go, but inside him is this other life that's pouring out of him as well.
Speaker B:He's a builder, he's an encourager.
Speaker B:There's something about him that is special.
Speaker B:And God sees it and sends Simon Peter and opens up the door to the Gentile one.
Speaker B:So these Corneliuses, I think we're seeing them all over.
Speaker B:But this is what I wanted to say that I also, as I look at this whole thing about kings and priests, because it.
Speaker B:You said it from Revelations 1 of verse 6, it says that he's met us to be kings and priests.
Speaker B:So that.
Speaker B:That's what we are made to be, kings and priests.
Speaker B:So this is.
Speaker B:This is Psalm 110, kings and priests.
Speaker B:That's what we're looking at.
Speaker B:We're looking at the Sonship, the.
Speaker B:The king.
Speaker B:King Jesus and a priest according to the order of Melchizedek.
Speaker B:If.
Speaker B:If I even look into the Old Testament, though.
Speaker B:So these are people that didn't have the New Testament.
Speaker B:It wasn't even there.
Speaker B:But if I look.
Speaker B:Look at them and I. I go, okay, is there a picture of kings and priests in the New Testament that I can look at?
Speaker B:And it helps me understand where we are at right now.
Speaker B:And there is a phenomenal picture in the Old Testament, and it's from 1 Kings and 20, chapter 25.
Speaker B:And it just brings a practical to the whole of Psalm 100.
Speaker A:Okay, go ahead.
Speaker A:It involves a beautiful woman and a fool, right?
Speaker B:Yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker B:So this is.
Speaker B:Let's just get the scenario.
Speaker B:So Saul is the king.
Speaker B:David has been anointed to be the king, but he's going through a hugely testing time, a challenging time, because all those other men that have been rejected basically from everywhere else come and gather around him, and he's now been persecuted by Saul.
Speaker B:And we.
Speaker B:We know the story.
Speaker B:So anyway, 1 Samuel 25.
Speaker B:These are the characters.
Speaker B:There's David and there's Abigail, and Abigail is Nabal's wife, Abigail.
Speaker B:It means the father's joy.
Speaker B:So Abigail is the father's joy.
Speaker B:There's.
Speaker B:There's Nebula, whose name means stupid, means pool, basically.
Speaker B:And then there's there's the donkey that's involved in this story who's very, very useful.
Speaker B:Donkeys are beautiful.
Speaker B:God loves donkeys.
Speaker B:But that's another.
Speaker B:That's another story.
Speaker B:And then there's the mighty men of David and the household of Nebel and Abigail.
Speaker B:And I'm going to condense it really quickly, but this man who was named Stupid Neighbor, he was completely dense, a fool, an idiot.
Speaker B:And it wasn't just that he was a fool once.
Speaker B:He lived a life of foolishness, which, of course, Abigail had been seeing her whole life.
Speaker B:And the story is, David comes with his miter men.
Speaker B:He is hungry, they are weary.
Speaker B:He sends the miter men to Nabal to ask if they've got any provision for them.
Speaker B:And neighbors in his usual stupid cell is dishonoring, disrespectful, and all the rest to not only the mighty men, but to David as well.
Speaker A:Turns him away.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:And Abigail, the Father's Joy, it says she's a woman of good understanding and beautiful in every way.
Speaker B:I. I really believe this.
Speaker B:She really is this image of what a priest really is.
Speaker B:A real.
Speaker B:A real, real priest who actually intercedes with her life for her husband, but also for David.
Speaker B:And she knows that her husband is a fool.
Speaker B:And she also knows her own situation.
Speaker B:Now, this is.
Speaker B:We don't know how long she's been married.
Speaker B:And Abel, we don't know.
Speaker B:You know, we just know he's rich, he's got provisions.
Speaker B:He's one of these guys that's very influential.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He's doing.
Speaker B:He thinks he's the man, you know, and he.
Speaker B:He's got his finger on the trigger, so to speak.
Speaker B:He's just the bee's knees.
Speaker B:And actually, Abigail has put up with this fool of a man for some years, and she hears what he has just done.
Speaker B:David.
Speaker B:And the thing about Abigail is that she also discerns David is the King David.
Speaker B:She understands somewhere in the spirit, she begins to understand that David actually is the coming king.
Speaker B:He is the one who will sit on the throne.
Speaker B:And she gets it.
Speaker B:She understands it.
Speaker B:And now she thinks this fool of her husband has actually gone up.
Speaker B:He's dishonored David in every possible way.
Speaker B:And now she knows David's furious.
Speaker B:And the story of her and the way that she goes to meet David is incredible.
Speaker B:David was ready with his mighty men to kill Nabal Lotho.
Speaker B:And if you think about what's going on in these days, this is an incredible picture.
Speaker B:Honestly, we are surrounded, I'm sorry to say it, by fools, idiots, stupid people who do not know and have not discerned what God is doing, who God really is, and what he's presently wanting to do and into the future.
Speaker B:They just don't.
Speaker B:They don't understand it at all.
Speaker B:And they think of themselves as Nabal.
Speaker B:We are surrounded by people like this in governments, in places of influence, in the Church, honestly, without excuse.
Speaker A:That's education, media, business.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Everywhere.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Planet Stupid, you could call it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And of course, what she did is she loaded up the donkey with every provision.
Speaker B:I mean, you just think, you know, when you're loaded with grace, when you're loaded down with grace, it looks like donkeys who were full of provision.
Speaker B:And she goes, if I don't do something, David's gonna wipe out Nabal.
Speaker B:He's gonna kill their family.
Speaker B:He's gonna kill the whole household.
Speaker B:There's gonna be bloodshed.
Speaker B:I need to do something.
Speaker B:She is weighed with grace.
Speaker B:She understands, she discerns.
Speaker B:And this is what I mean.
Speaker B:She's another Cornelius.
Speaker B:I don't know where she learned this stuff.
Speaker B:I don't know where she went to learn this stuff.
Speaker B:But somehow inside her, she had life, and she carried life.
Speaker B:She carried grace, and she carried truth.
Speaker B:She sent the donkeys.
Speaker B:She went along with them, and she met him.
Speaker B:And she says this in verse 25.
Speaker B:She said, Please let not my lord regard this scoundrel Nabel, for as his name is, so he is.
Speaker B:Nabal is his name, and folly is with him.
Speaker B:And this is the other thing.
Speaker B:She saw reality.
Speaker B:She didn't look at it and go, no, this is not reality.
Speaker B:I better respect and honor my husband.
Speaker B:No, no, no.
Speaker B:She went, he's an idiot, and he's a fool, and he's going to get us killed if we carry on like this.
Speaker B:And she said it in front of David, and she said it as clear as all that.
Speaker B:And it's like, okay, we need some people right now who are going to see what the reality is that surrounds us, who actually discern properly and are true to that reality that we live in.
Speaker B:We're not of the world, but we live in it.
Speaker B:We have to be true to that reality and at the same time carry the Father's heart.
Speaker B:Okay, that's.
Speaker B:That's what Abigail was doing.
Speaker B:She is a priest of the most high God.
Speaker B:And the king is present.
Speaker B:David, the king is present.
Speaker B:So we've got a king and a priest coming together in this story.
Speaker B:And it's.
Speaker B:It's fascinating because the king wants to deal with Abel and just take the sword and deal with them, like, outright.
Speaker B:That's it.
Speaker B:Finish.
Speaker B:Game up.
Speaker B:But she intercedes on her husband's behalf before David, and she causes heaven to come with the earth.
Speaker B:Now, interestingly so, Abigail, and this is what I was saying before, you know, these Corneliuses, Abigail, I don't know where they learn.
Speaker B:I don't know where they read it.
Speaker B:I don't know where they got it from.
Speaker B:But actually, they were carrying something of their Maker and Creator on the inside of them, and it began to flow out of them in.
Speaker B:In life.
Speaker B:And they met one another.
Speaker B:And it says.
Speaker B:It says somewhere in.
Speaker B:In 1 Samuel 25, I think, round about verse 23, it says that she fell before.
Speaker B:Before David on her face.
Speaker B:And she recognized that David was carrying government from another place.
Speaker B:That's what she recognized.
Speaker B:She discerned it and saw it.
Speaker B:And she honored him and submitted to him without Question that.
Speaker B:That for this woman.
Speaker B:She.
Speaker B:And you could even say that through the trials, through the testing, through living with this fool of a man called Nabel, she'd actually learn a number of things.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And you go, okay, so.
Speaker B:So we are surrounded by people now who are like Nabel, and it's a very challenging, difficult, dark time.
Speaker B:But actually, we can learn numbers of things if we will tune into the Father's heart.
Speaker B:And Abigail was the Father's joy.
Speaker B:You know, she obviously.
Speaker B:I mean, her name says everything then.
Speaker B:It's beautiful.
Speaker B:But she sees the king.
Speaker B:She recognizes the government and what he brings.
Speaker B:She fell before him and laid her life down before him.
Speaker B:And she says this in verse 29.
Speaker B:It's beautiful.
Speaker B:Little phrase.
Speaker B:She says, yeah, a man has arisen to pursue you.
Speaker B:So she's talking about Saul and.
Speaker B:And seek your life.
Speaker B:But the life of my Lord shall be bound in the bundle of the living with the Lord your God, and the lives of your enemies he shall fling out as from the pocket of a sling.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:He shall sling out.
Speaker B:So David, she recognized it's gonna be the king, but I want to remind him of who he is and what God will do through him.
Speaker B:And she says he is gonna sling him out.
Speaker B:Of course, David would have to do some pretty big.
Speaker B:Pretty big things.
Speaker B:He would have to enact some huge things in his life, but it would be God who would be doing it through it.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker B:The King.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:This is all.
Speaker A:This is all type of Christ.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:It's just.
Speaker B:It's just fascinating how she is.
Speaker B:I mean, she's absolutely wonderful.
Speaker B:And she recognizes what he.
Speaker B:David, is dealing with.
Speaker B:That's what she does.
Speaker B:She recognizes that.
Speaker B:She shares his memories and his pain.
Speaker B:She talks.
Speaker B:She knows his past.
Speaker B:And somehow when you know that and you share it with someone, it means something.
Speaker B:So this is all to do with the priesthood.
Speaker B:There's something to do with a heavenly priesthood in it.
Speaker B:She acknowledges what he's dealing with.
Speaker B:She reminds him how his life's wrapped up and around in a bundle of the living with the Lord.
Speaker B:It's beautiful.
Speaker B:A bundle of the living with the Lord.
Speaker B:It's fabulous.
Speaker B:And then she reminds him of his glorious victories in the past.
Speaker B:You can read all this in that psalm.
Speaker B:You know, the listeners can read it all in.
Speaker B:In that psalm.
Speaker B:It's beautiful.
Speaker B:And how that had propelled him, the way that he'd held himself in the past, how it had propelled him, like that sling that he threw out the stone off.
Speaker B:It was really the same with his own life.
Speaker B:He was propelled into his future and his destiny and how he downed that giant.
Speaker B:Fantastic.
Speaker B:She speaks of all of this and a future and a hope.
Speaker B:She speaks all of it.
Speaker B:And it.
Speaker B:It's just in that picture, you see a priest who is operating from another dimension, a heavenly dimension, like the Melchizedek and dimension.
Speaker B:She's moving in that place and bring it to the earth.
Speaker B:And then you see the king himself coming together to be with her.
Speaker B:And of course, the outcome is that actually they get married, they become one.
Speaker B:They are completely unified.
Speaker B:And that picture is absolutely fantastic.
Speaker B:And that I believe, you know, with what we've talked about before, these foundational truths that are established as life within us, as.
Speaker B:As we move in those.
Speaker B:We come to this place where God looks at us and goes, okay, now you have my permission to move forward.
Speaker B:There is life inside you.
Speaker B:You're established in some of these truths.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:There is a.
Speaker B:There is a priestly life that's developed inside you.
Speaker B:I see it.
Speaker B:And now you released into a new dimension, amazing new order, which would be the Melchizedek and order Paul, would you.
Speaker A:Say the Old Testament in terms of this?
Speaker A:Really, the.
Speaker A:The real life stories and things that occurred are patterns and precedents of fulfillment in Christ under the.
Speaker A:Under the new covenant.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker A:And what happened to Nabal?
Speaker A:How did he die?
Speaker A:Because he died before David married her, of course.
Speaker B:Actually, yeah, I was gonna.
Speaker B:I was gonna read that somewhere.
Speaker B:It says that that evening, Nabel decides to have a party and he becomes intoxicated with wine.
Speaker B:And when I thought about that, I thought, you know, there's some people.
Speaker B:We saw it during the pandemic.
Speaker B:There were people who were intoxicated with power.
Speaker B:It was like a wine that went to the head.
Speaker B:They were intoxicated with it.
Speaker B:They were intoxicated with greed.
Speaker B:Corruption got a hold of them.
Speaker B:Depravity took over him somehow and.
Speaker B:And they were intoxicated with it.
Speaker B:And right now we're in that moment where it's just coming a morning time.
Speaker B:The sun is beginning to shine in all his glory and all his brightness.
Speaker B:And he's is exposing fools and stupidity before us.
Speaker B:And that's what it says.
Speaker B:It says that that evening, Nabal, he begins to drink.
Speaker B:He gets drunk.
Speaker B:He goes to bed drunk.
Speaker B:Abigail can't talk to him.
Speaker B:She's not able to talk to him.
Speaker B:But in the morning, she speaks to him and tells him how a priest of heaven and a king from heaven came together and they talked.
Speaker B:And as soon as he heard it, it says in that moment, his heart was turned to stone in that moment.
Speaker A:Amazing.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker B:It's just incredible.
Speaker B:And then you think, okay, so he then had 10 days.
Speaker B:So even in that moment, God gave him 10 days, which we know is a number of testing.
Speaker B:God gave him 10 days in which he could have repented, in which he could have returned.
Speaker B:This is like the long suffering of God.
Speaker A:His heart was in stone, a stone like state for 10 days.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Really?
Speaker B:So it was the living dead for 10 days.
Speaker B:I mean, he'd be.
Speaker B:Let's face it, he'd been the living dead before.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And God had looked at that.
Speaker B:And I think, you know, we call that patience.
Speaker B:Abigail had been patient and patient and patient and carried on being patient.
Speaker B:And God had seen it.
Speaker B:And then there came a time where his foolishness became public.
Speaker B:And when that became public, God went, okay, you are now seared.
Speaker B:Your conscience is so seared that it's now flowing out everywhere, and I cannot stop you from being exposed.
Speaker B:So he was exposed.
Speaker B:Abigail brought the truth of his present reality to him.
Speaker B:His heart turned to storm.
Speaker B:And then God, in his long suffering, gave him another 10 days to change.
Speaker B:But he did not change, and he died on the 10th day.
Speaker A:Amazing.
Speaker B:Just incredible.
Speaker A:God took him out.
Speaker A:God gave him time to repent, but then took him out.
Speaker A:That's what I see there.
Speaker A:Do you agree with that?
Speaker B:Yeah, and I. I think you can go, you know, and I think it says there that actually.
Speaker B:And God.
Speaker B:It says, and God killed him.
Speaker B:But actually part of me goes, you know what God.
Speaker B:God really didn't do.
Speaker B:He didn't have to do anything because the guy had killed himself.
Speaker B:The guy had sent a boomerang out, and while it cut people down, he didn't realize it were going to return and cut his own head off.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that's exactly what he did.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:In Psalm 2.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:In Psalm 2.
Speaker A:In Psalm 2, at the end, you know, we.
Speaker A:We're saying that you have Psalm 110.
Speaker A:We're saying that Psalm 2 and Psalm 149 are tremendous bookends or psalms to read with it.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:And, and, and to just allow it to become part and parcel of who you are.
Speaker A:The truth of it, the thoughts of it, the revelation of it.
Speaker A:But we know what Psalms 2 is.
Speaker A:It's about Jesus is going to inherit the nations from his Father.
Speaker A:And, you know, the decree was said to the son, ask of me, and I will give you the nations for your inheritance.
Speaker A:In verse 10, he addresses the kings, therefore, be wise, O Kings, be instructed, you judges of the earth.
Speaker A:Serve the Lord with fear and rejoice with trembling.
Speaker A:Kiss the Son, which means to embrace or to pay homage to, you know, embrace his instruction.
Speaker A:Kiss the Son, lest he be angry and you perish in the way when his wrath is kindled, but a little.
Speaker A:And what I'm wondering, Paul, we know that when the Lord comes again, Paul, in Thessalonians, you know, Book of Revelation, of Christ, other references in the New Testament, we know that the wrath of the Lord is coming to this earth.
Speaker A:And are we seeing now within the framework of Psalm 110, are we seeing a kindling of that wrath now?
Speaker A:A little kindling as a redemptive instruction or warning or, you know, a forte.
Speaker A:A sampling of this is what's.
Speaker A:I mean, I don't want to get too geopolitical, but, you know, are we seeing a kindling now of.
Speaker A:Of his wrath?
Speaker B:I think we are a little bit in the place that we just talked about now, which is.
Speaker B:It's kind of like people have sent boomerangs out, and those boomerangs are returning upon their own heads.
Speaker B:And it's like you go, is that God or is it them?
Speaker B:And actually, the truth is that what is being returned to them is what they have sown their selves.
Speaker B:So it's like, you know, I think in olden days we would have gone, oh, that was God.
Speaker B:But I go.
Speaker B:I look at and I go, you know what?
Speaker B:That's not God.
Speaker B:That is just the consequence of what you desired and chose to do and would not change.
Speaker B:And you continued in it and continued in it.
Speaker B:And God saw it.
Speaker B:And when you're exposed now, I can't keep you from being exposed.
Speaker B:You are exposed.
Speaker B:You're exposing yourself.
Speaker B:You're in your shame.
Speaker B:You are terrorizing and killing people in the way that you are acting and behaving right now.
Speaker B:And that cannot carry on.
Speaker A:It cannot carry on.
Speaker B:And there is an end to it.
Speaker A:There is an end.
Speaker B:There is an end to it.
Speaker A:Okay, maybe we could say it this way, a kinder way to say it.
Speaker A:I hear you wanting to be kinder about it.
Speaker A:As in, God did not perhaps directly execute somebody.
Speaker A:Or maybe he did, I don't know.
Speaker A:But let's just say he did not directly execute.
Speaker A:You know, it says in Psalms 110 at the end again, verses 5 to 7, he will execute the heads of nations.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:He will break in pieces the heads of nations.
Speaker A:He will execute them.
Speaker A:In fact, he.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:He's so exerted in it that there's the picture in the very last Verse of.
Speaker A:He has to go to the brook and refresh himself and.
Speaker A:And recapture.
Speaker A:It's a picture of.
Speaker A:Of him being able to carry on the pursuit across the.
Speaker A:Across the land.
Speaker A:Running, Running his enemies down.
Speaker A:That's the.
Speaker A:Just like in those warfare days, they would walk and run for miles and miles and miles and miles.
Speaker A:You know, they didn't have mechanized, you know, infant infantry or something.
Speaker A:But, you know, so he would.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker A:Okay, can we put it this way?
Speaker A:Even though we live, the earth is the Lord's.
Speaker A:Paul.
Speaker A:Psalm 24.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:The earth has never belonged to Satan, nor the fullness thereof, nor the people who dwell in it.
Speaker A:Psalm 24:1.
Speaker A:But the system of this world is under the sway of the evil one.
Speaker A:So in the midst of that, can we say that God's glory is still filling the earth?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:He's omnipresent.
Speaker A:He has.
Speaker A:He has coded creation in such a way that you will reap a harvest.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:The harvest will catch up with you.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:And if we want to say in that sense, the Lord snuffed Nabal out, you know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:But the law of seed, time and harvest will catch up with you.
Speaker A:The boomerangs, as you say, will come back.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Definitely.
Speaker A:Sown you will reap.
Speaker A:There will be exposure.
Speaker A:He will take you down.
Speaker A:You may die.
Speaker A:There are, you know, there are people who have died.
Speaker A:I, you know, Herod, the death that he died.
Speaker A:I mean, the high priest Caiaphas.
Speaker A:I mean, the.
Speaker A:There's some information that's coming to me now about what happened to him after the resurrection of Christ.
Speaker A:I want to get into it, but there are consequences.
Speaker A:You know, Pilate's wife came and warned him and said, hey, I saw a dream and I suffered greatly because of this man.
Speaker A:Don't touch this man.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker A:You're touching the second person of the Godhead.
Speaker A:And there are.
Speaker A:It is consequential.
Speaker A:He is coming to rule this planet.
Speaker A:Nothing is going to stop it.
Speaker A:Well, we could say he's king now.
Speaker A:Revelation 1 says that in spite of.
Speaker A:I mean, you have this Iranian fanatical waiting for the 12th Iman trying to create chaos and kill Israel so the 12th Iman can come.
Speaker A:The Shiite Islam killing their own people by the tens of thousands.
Speaker A:30, 40, 50,000 Just recently, who knows how many over the decades slaughtering people.
Speaker A:Is that going to go unabated?
Speaker A:Is that going to go unchecked, unstopped, forever?
Speaker B:Definitely not.
Speaker B:And now we're living in this.
Speaker B:This time is right now.
Speaker B:This time is right now.
Speaker B:And it's happening, it's going to happen on mass.
Speaker B:There's no doubt about it.
Speaker B:No doubt about it.
Speaker B:I have seen this in other countries taking place where God himself just goes, okay, this is what I want you to do or sing or say or whatever it is that he instructs us to do.
Speaker B:And in that regard, God himself deals with the consequences of it all.
Speaker B:And people disappear.
Speaker B:They're gone.
Speaker A:And it's, you know, the wicked are.
Speaker A:The wicked have no staying power on this planet.
Speaker A:The Bible says the wicked will not remain on this planet.
Speaker A:They will be a rooted.
Speaker A:Ultimately, we are looking for a new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.
Speaker A:There will be no wicked.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker A:And I mean, now we see wicked in the earth, of course, but it seems to me, you know, hope I don't get into trouble and people don't, whatever, hate me or whatever.
Speaker A:But it seems there is a Jesus that we don't know.
Speaker A:Paul.
Speaker A:That's what I want to say.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:There is the, the loving, embracing lamb holding shepherd.
Speaker A:The almost the.
Speaker A:I saw a painting recently of Christ.
Speaker A:He looked.
Speaker A:He looked like a woman.
Speaker A:Yeah, they had him rendered as a woman.
Speaker A:He looked, he looked like.
Speaker A:You couldn't figure out if he was a woman or a man.
Speaker A:And, and.
Speaker A:But I don't know that we know the Jesus that is coming back.
Speaker A:And I don't think we understand his infinite sense of justice and holiness and righteousness.
Speaker B:And I think this as well, Brian, when you say the Jesus that he's coming back.
Speaker B:Well, actually the Jesus is coming back is coming back in us first.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:He's coming back in us first.
Speaker B:Because again, people go, you know, well, Jesus is going to come back.
Speaker B:Well, yeah, Jesus is going to come back.
Speaker B:But actually Jesus is coming back in us.
Speaker B:And all creation is awaiting for the sons of God.
Speaker B:All creation now is awaiting for the sons of God.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And it's like, okay, he is coming back because.
Speaker B:Because it's nearly like what we do is we go, you know, well, we're putting it off to when he is coming back.
Speaker B:But actually we are his body.
Speaker B:He is the head.
Speaker B:He is.
Speaker B:He is coming back right now.
Speaker B:And what he's doing right now is leveling us up by a plumb line.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:And going.
Speaker A:Actually, that's what we're saying, you know,.
Speaker B:So our own lives are being leveled by a plumb line and we, we are being called back to what we should be in Him.
Speaker B:And that is an establishment of truth that is living out of us.
Speaker B:And as we do that, we become those priests and kings that are to rule and reign on the earth.
Speaker B:And that's how we bring his kingdom into this place.
Speaker B:Right now, this moment.
Speaker B:I am not waiting for Jesus to rescue me, because he's already rescued me.
Speaker B:I am wanting to be the Son of God, who I truly am, who is bringing something of heaven to the earth right now.
Speaker B:And that's what I've said, you know, and I, I've looked around, you know, breakers, we.
Speaker B:We've talked many times, but I've looked around and I've gone, you know what?
Speaker B:This, this.
Speaker B:There are people that are stupid, that are fools, that do not know what they are doing right now.
Speaker B:But I tell you, if they do not stop like Nabal, there will be an exposure and many hearts will stop just like that.
Speaker B:And they'll be gone.
Speaker B:And then they'll.
Speaker B:They'll.
Speaker B:They'll wonder.
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:Well, they won't wonder anything.
Speaker B:They'll be.
Speaker B:They'll be facing him.
Speaker B:But I. I think we are in a very, very historic moment.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Ready to.
Speaker A:And I. I guess I want to believe that.
Speaker A:This is why it seems like for Me Personally, Psalm 110, it's recently been highlighted.
Speaker A:For me, this is maybe why the Lord is doing that.
Speaker A:That, you know, because many, you know, there is a way of believing that relegates Psalm 110 to the millennium, Paul.
Speaker A:Like a hyper dispensationalism that puts all of it in the future, all of it.
Speaker A:And I think what.
Speaker A:What I said in the post that I did was that, okay, it may reach its zenith then, but it's already at play now.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:And even with it already being in play now, at some level, it's redemptive in nature because it's chastisement, it's warnings, it's giving time to repent, you know, because it's not like a switch where the wrath of the Lord will be turned on eschatologically.
Speaker A:Only the wrath is already here, Paul.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:It's just not all here.
Speaker A:Thank God in his grace, it's here enough to give us a warning.
Speaker A:I'm just processing out loud now, Paul, and you tell me what you think, but the wrath is already here now in a lower intensity redemptive form to give us time to repent.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like the zealousness of Jesus at the temple.
Speaker B:No, you know, because that.
Speaker B:We've played that down.
Speaker B:I mean, he wasn't nice.
Speaker B:He won't.
Speaker B:Jesus won't be nice.
Speaker B:He overturned those tables, you know, he.
Speaker B:He sat and Watched people going in and out.
Speaker B:He met a nine, a nine tailed whip.
Speaker B:He knew exactly what he was doing.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He made it overnight.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:This wasn't a rash decision.
Speaker B:No, that's intentional.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:I feel like for those who have ears to hear it and maybe it's going to be part of the church that actually elevates to this next levels that we're talking about.
Speaker A:I'm sure that it is part of the church.
Speaker A:God has always seemed to work through a remnant kind of a principle.
Speaker A:This is an appeal, understand the moment we're in.
Speaker A:Take a look at Psalm 110.
Speaker A:Why is it the most often quoted psalm in the New Testament?
Speaker A:Why were the early century 1 believers so enamored with Psalm 110?
Speaker A:Why is, why is Hebrews 10 or 15 references or allusions to Psalm 110 in the book of Hebrews and Hebrews, as you know, is all about the New Covenant, the Melchizedek and priesthood, so forth.
Speaker A:Why is it mentioned so much?
Speaker A:Why does it line up with Revelation 1?
Speaker A:Even the vision of Jesus that John had.
Speaker A:We have to think about this and you know, prepare, brace ourselves to meet this, to meet this moment.
Speaker A:We want to give an account to the Lord that we absolutely were all that he wanted us to be.
Speaker B:Just, just to finish with this is, this is, this is what I see.
Speaker B:And of course when Jesus moves like this, there is, there is no, of course he's joyful all the time, but when he moves like this, in this way, there is no joy in him in the sense that it's not some, he does not want anyone to perish.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker B:That's what we know.
Speaker B:So it's like if he is angry, it's not an anger that is moved by his own desire for vengeance.
Speaker B:It's nothing to do with that.
Speaker B:He's angry because people who he loves refused to listen to life and to receive life.
Speaker B:And by refusing it, they themselves cannot live in the way that he purposed for them.
Speaker B:So it's a sadness.
Speaker B:So there is an anger, but it's.
Speaker B:It behind it is a sadness for those people.
Speaker B:He doesn't, he doesn't, he's not, he's not there, you know, rubbing his hands together, going, it's time to get rid of him.
Speaker B:There's nothing in him like that, nothing at all.
Speaker B:It's the difference.
Speaker B:There's a different motivation in him.
Speaker B:And that's why kings and priests together must rule in this time.
Speaker B:That's why it's a new order.
Speaker B:Because kings and priests Like David and Abigail, that heart has got to be captured together.
Speaker B:And those decrees that then come from the king, out of the king's counsel, they are full of the heart, Abigail, the full of the heart of heaven.
Speaker B:And that is, you understand me?
Speaker B:I, I, it's, it's like he doesn't want.
Speaker A:No, it's motivated by something else.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that, those are the kings and priests that he's looking for.
Speaker B:You know, he's looking.
Speaker B:We are a royal priesthood, you know, and we know that Jesus is a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek.
Speaker B:And we too are in him in that order.
Speaker B:That's where we rule and reign from.
Speaker B:And that's why, you know, from verse six onwards, and I think you said, you know, there's probably seven or ten other references about Melchizedek there.
Speaker B:It's because that order is nothing to do with an earthly seeing, an earthly judgment.
Speaker B:It's coming from a different place.
Speaker B:You could say there's a lamb's heart in the lion, but boy, when he roars, when he roars, he's gonna, you know, you're gonna feel, you're gonna feel it.
Speaker B:I mean, you know, you often think about the breath, you know, when you said the breath.
Speaker B:Yeah, the breath slays the wicked.
Speaker A:Slays the wicked.
Speaker B:Just go, you know, this is just a breath, you know, he's just breathing.
Speaker B:He's just breathing.
Speaker A:Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand.
Speaker A:Get ready.
Speaker A:Yeah, for it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Start living now.
Speaker A:Start living now in light of it, because this is what's coming.
Speaker B:Yeah, really.
Speaker B:And we have to remember Heaven.
Speaker B:We are heavenly beings.
Speaker B:We are from the Father's heart.
Speaker B:We, we bring the Father's kingdom, you know, that's where we're coming from.
Speaker B:We're not coming from an earthly place.
Speaker B:We're not judging with earthly eyes and discernment.
Speaker B:There again, you see, you read it again.
Speaker B:You know, they couldn't discern and, and deception at the moment is, is in an all time high.
Speaker B:We've got deception everywhere and it's, it's full, the Church is full of deception.
Speaker B:I gotta say, right.
Speaker B:You know, I can't, I can't say anything else.
Speaker B:I'd love to say something else.
Speaker B:I have loved the Church all my life.
Speaker B:It's, you know, I, I've loved Jesus and I love the Church.
Speaker B:I've served the Church.
Speaker B:But I tell you now, now is the time that the Ecclesia, the true Ecclesia, the heavenly people are going to start ruling and reigning on the earth, and it's going to be completely different to anything that we've seen previously.
Speaker B:You know, we.
Speaker B:We've got to learn new things.
Speaker A:You know, your love of Jesus and your love of the truth and your love of getting on the leading edge of where he's at has got to be greater than your love of these other things that you will lose.
Speaker B:You know, I wonder if as we walk this walk, you know, that actually the road gets narrower and narrower and the ceiling gets lower and lower in the sense of, you know, there is truth and there is the way and there is the life, but there's also the humility that it needs to get into it.
Speaker A:Absolutely, Paul.
Speaker A:I so appreciate this.
Speaker A:With your willingness, we'll have to talk again, of course.
Speaker A:I'm sure we will.
Speaker A:We'll do some, some, some things together.
Speaker A:We're all questing and seeking to grow.
Speaker A:I appreciate you, Paul.
Speaker B:Yeah, and you.
Speaker B:Likewise, Brian.
Speaker B:Bless you, my brother.
